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Mosaic story
« on: April 13, 2006, 01:10:07 am »
Mosaic story
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Releasing boarof mosaic and 淳 巳
It begins from now on, as for "releasing the mosaic", the guppy raising experience of my over 10 years especially mosaic system we would like to write on the basis of, focusing on, concerning the basis and technique of breeding. "To release", because it is the case that the experience where I am awkward concerning contents, becomes the cause, concerning the result which this causes being responsibility not to be able to have altogether, please acknowledge. In addition, because those which do not have the scientific supporting as another, it is many knowledge of general heredity, at this point in time pardon you ask. You write as you happen to think and keep advancing, the page renew, you think that there are also times when for a while it stops midway. How the permission. In addition, opinion, we wait for thought. At the mail the せ.

Encounter with the mosaic

The fact that I encounter with the guppy, at the time 3 years of, junior high school of over 30 years ago was from now. After matter and mind being attached, until presently it fishes over 40 years, in regard to the fish, you raise, the king cobra which it eats, it is I who very is not the eye but, at the house of the friend, views which for the first time to even now is not forgotten. It had transferring that fish for 500 Yen, guppy raising started.
When you enter into high school, it reached the point where it commutes to the shop of neighborhood. At that time I have lived in the Yachiyo stand of Chiba prefecture, it has the greenhouse in the section of station nearby beauty shop, the guppy central small shop was the store of arriving. As for me, the mosaic (as for name of that time mosaic delta) encountering for the first time here, liking at the glance, hitting allowance you bought. As for my allowance of that time, month 3000 Yen, that mosaic 3000 Yen, was considerable venture with pair. Then 3 years to university entrance, at the room of four tatami mat half breeding was continued with 6 these tanks, but when you become the university student, the house it became many, naturally disappear, ended my first guppy breeding to can be less crowded.
As for beginning guppy raising which continues soon, over 10 years ago, now one word of my daughter who has become an adult was opportunity. The ちび roundly densely the daughter who the apparent て is "don't you think? me the っ you want it needs and or wants that you proposed the ょ" with the television. You went out to the tropical fish store after a long time then. Those where then it views to, were the import guppy. You were impressed to the color vividness, bought only the guppy with that removing of the child. Half year, 1 year later, the number of tanks and from 20 it increased to 40, the guppy changed to the domestic production.
And 9 years ago, it moves to the house which presently has lived, puts 120 these tanks on the guppy private greenhouse, focusing on mosaic system, breeding it does the guppy of approximately 40 kinds. In addition, Suzuki military officer rule you who have cooperated as a breeder of this store before moving to the present house from, with the friend, knew each other through the shop of neighborhood. He with the breeder whose sense is very good, to raise the fish very politely. Blue system such as mosaic and old fashion being proud, victory and superior winning a prize experience in the big contest there is a large number. On the basis of the kind parent of this greenhouse, with approximately 40 these tanks, the fish is made with his individual breeding.


Charm of mosaic

If in the person who raises the guppy, that you hear what charm of the guppy as for, being very clean, it is easy to raise, the child can be increased simply, etc., the fact that extremely the general answering comes returning normal. But, if, that you hear in the breeder what charm of the respective kind such as the German yellow and blue glass as for, there being the taste and the prejudice which the person respectively, are different, the various answering return. Even among those, when becomes also the mosaic, because it is the kind which is rich, in change such as variation of hybridization and difference of the color handle very, also the taste becomes various ones.
   Like this I who am said, starting adhering to the mosaic, 10 years, at that time, while the coral, adopting, also various variations such as tuxedo and cobra, have reached to the present. Here, we would like to comment concerning, the charm of the mosaic of my appearance.
   In the first place, the mosaic, be inherited, it is on Y and the X-chromosome, the mosaic gene has become the cause, but the female of the mosaic, can, also such as mosaic cobra and old fashion mosaic bear the 仔 of various types with the hybridization with the male which has the various genes on the Y chromosome. This way, also those where the various variations can be enjoyed by utilizing the female, are one of charm of the mosaic. But, as for the first charm which I think, as for the mosaic the color handle and the like is easy to change with the breeder, being personality, it means the る fish, in other words, being the fish where sense of the breeder is questioned. When the separate breeder takes two generations and three generations, it is good even with the mosaic which can be taken from the same parent to become the fish which is different completely. In addition, speaking finely, if the mosaic 2 and 30 you swim in your own tank is, you can say that the one it is the fish which had the personality of the extent which can identify one. You think that such fish in the partner, the fact that it gets near to the guppy of the ideal which by your imagine even a little is the first pleasure.


Good mosaic

You are not wrong to the fish which you think that it is cleanest, the good mosaic for the breeder. But, this does not pass, being pleasantly in the straw raincoat of the individual, generally easily. After all, the other breeder, the store, in addition, you must accept, either the criticism of others such as judge in the guppy contest and appraisal of the gallery, it is many also the times. Here, in my appearance, it tried thinking concerning the good mosaic.
   Not just the mosaic, the adult fish of the guppy the body, the back fin and the caudal fin etc. balance is large well, you swim vigorously with the thick tail covert, after clearing necessary condition entirely, it assumes that those which display the feature of the respective kind well are good e.g., the tail opening to be good there is no wrinkle. Here, we would like to think of only the feature of the kind.
   You can say that feature of the mosaic quickly there is a variety of the color handle of the beam caudal fin. You cannot express with word easily, but in the foundation which designates red as keynote, black or are dense the handle of dark blue, those which enter into random in the basis, in this green, yellow and white etc. it assumes that those which balance, well are inlaid are good. But, with my experience, when the many colors are sought excessively, there is no メリハリ of the handle, in the beautiful mosaic handle become, the failure was good. I, thinking of that in first, メリハリ is attached to this, handle, bred then. You scratch afterwards, concerning the parent choosing and the like for that, but the mosaic of the very good handle could do the result. As for this by the fact that you can say even with the other variation of the mosaic, in the especially mosaic tuxedo it seems that appears more remarkably. As an exception, the old fashion mosaic. This kind with as polychromatic, it is easy to become the color handle which it is clear, it is thought that affinity is good relatively.

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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2006, 01:12:33 am »
メリハリ of mosaic handle

   Clear, the mosaic handle which has メリハリ makes the feature of the kind be conspicuous, gives the impression which is strong in the person who is seen. The photograph to the right is the tail of the モザイクタキ seed. With this photograph, there is about it is not a little clear, but black pattern enters in orange, around that it is recognized that edging which is white has enclosed. This edging, pulls the mosaic handle and becomes the accent which is made to pass. If it is the handle which has this, メリハリ is not, the mosaic not to become always polychromatic and the て to be a sufficient appreciation value probably will be?
So, when this kind of color handle how is done, we would like to think from now on, concerning whether it can make, but before thinking of the color handle, first, being attached to the color and thickness of cloth of the tail it is necessary to know well.

Color and thickness of cloth of tail

  As for the guppy it is possible polychromatic and color handle one of the thing and the mosaic and the glass type etc. which have the tail of the German yellow and monochromatic type which is represented in the neon tuxedo and the like to be able to divide, but here, only cloth of the tail is remembered, color and the handle are pulled out. When it does, it is thought that as for the fish and the lead tail and the neon tuxedo etc. of glass type from transparently close ones, to thin white ones, as for the German yellow and the like white and cream color remain. If this should have referred RRE.A of the German yellow and the neon tuxedo is recognized. So, cloth of the tail of the mosaic type which I think with mosaic system how probably will be, is thought, from most transparencies like the German yellow width to be wide to white ones a certain way. It is thought that color and thickness of this cloth have exerted influence on color handle and メリハリ of the mosaic largely.
When the color handle rides in transparent ones and the cloth which is close to that, when it is the mosaic, hyperchromic of red and black etc. is visible relatively cleanly, but when the orange, it becomes light color such as yellow green and yellow, scantness is conspicuous after all, profoundness becomes the fish which is not. Vis-a-vis this, when the color handle rides in the cloth of white and cream color, color of red type becomes bright color, red and such as orange color is also a thickness, black and reaches the point where also contrast of the handle of dark blue glows densely.
Next is メリハリ of the handle. When the hyperchromic handle enters into the foundation of red type, it reaches the point where it is called the mosaic once. But with just this it is high with you cannot call appreciation value. In case of me, as expressed even before, rather than adhering polychromatic, you inserted edging which is white around the hyperchromic handle, the handle floated and in order to be able to give the profound impression with making rise, heart per seat you increased. In the first place, when as for the origin of the kind name, mosaic of the guppy, being something which is taken from the ancient Egypt mosaic picture, as for the technique making the various color stones and the glass and the shell etc. the pedestal compete, being something which, makes the pattern surface, role of the joint between the material pulls the color of the material and raising it seems that carries out important role. It is something whose also it is interesting to receive the name in the domestic guppy where also the paragraph く is the admiration fish, to discover value in the beauty. Next you express concerning the female of the mosaic.


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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2006, 01:21:46 am »
Feature of female of mosaic

  The female of the guppy in comparison with the flashiness of the male, regarding the color handle very is plain. But, the very much beautiful female where you will see depending upon, being, is not that also the female of the mosaic goes in that, probably will be? As for color, from the transparency the faint green or blue depends on the cloth to cream color, the handle, from kind of those which copy the mosaic handle of the male that way, is various to the spot handle of various sizes. That it spread to ellipse, largely does very with beauty forcing ones. But, in only the beauty the air having been taken, it is not good. Therefore as for, the female choosing very the importance of the mosaic, improvement and maintenance of the mosaic tuxedo or the blue system etc. being difficult, is.
Before entering into the female choosing, one important thing is inserted in the head, it is important always to try not to forget. It means as for that, different world heredity repeatedly the color handle of the tail of the male of the mosaic, being. As for the color handle which appears in the tail of the male it is on the X-chromosome, because it is something by the mosaic gene, it is not succeeded in the male of that child, it means that everything covers the female. Because is, assuming, that the male which chooses by its was those where that tail handle is reflected, from F2, with mean to say. Furthermore you do not have to forget, because as for, as for the female of the mosaic, usually two X-chromosomes respectively, having the mosaic gene, as for one it is something which it succeeds from the mother, those where you receive from the male which is the father, just half, with mean to say. Extremely, is only-too-natural thing, but forgetting this, being F1, it meaning that coming is not good, it is wasted story it stops e.g..
(Note: This be inherited is not accurate with method of thinking of designating my breeding method as the basis. Actually because the male has the mosaic gene even in the Y chromosome, effect is produced to also the male of the next generation little. But, to understand we convey the breeding method of my mosaic as much as possible easily, being able to meet, it left the influence of the male in thought of minimum, such as physique and body shape that it thought, did this kind of description whether it does not mean that the person who ignores the male as a mosaic is good. In addition, as for this it is applicable to the kind which is called the generally known mosaic system to which with only the mosaic gene which is on the X-chromosome with the mosaic gene, expresses the tail handle of the mosaic entirely, in Y chromosome such as OF mosaic and mosaic cobra. On the basis of this thought, making the one time good female, the stripe uninformed, breeding after and increasing the variation of other mosaic type become very easy.)


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Basis of female choosing of mosaic

Here it comments concerning the female choosing of the basic mosaic, afterwards, the male of the mosaic has, as for color and pattern of various types respectively, that we would like to write concerning the notion that where you say whether it is produced by the parent of some kind of female. Concerning the body being to be the same you exclude the basis which is chosen.
The basis of the female choosing of the mosaic, after all, is the feature, you think that importance should be put to pattern. As expressed even before, discernibly, as for the tail handle of the female, stochastically, as for 50% it is reflected on the male of that child in number. Because 50% after that female one more receives influence to the mosaic gene which it has, when the child which is different from expectation is born, it is good. Therefore, those which are sought, from midst of 50% where it can expect temporarily, with under the recognition which is said, will choose the female.
The photograph which is on as for (1) the mosaic tuxedo, as for (2) it is the mosaic. Both pattern has entered almost uniformly from above to under. The black pattern where as for the mosaic tuxedo, there is being connected the center having at the yellow looking entering the proper degree, there is also a thickness of the tail sufficiently, is thought as the very good female. Because thing and the whole where the black part is somewhat weak thinly white pass the following mosaic, it is expected, that it becomes the bright color where as for the male of the child, pink applied the taste divides, probably will be. Also (3) is the female of the mosaic, but as for this tail black pattern is many, because furthermore, pattern is connected almost, the feeling which is dark does. Especially the good point is radial muscle of lower part. This pattern, to be inherited to the male, this way, spreading darkly, because it makes the kind of handle which becomes blurred, the female of this て should avoid, but in case of the mosaic, this kind of, it seems that the female which has problem in lower part of the tail is many.
One more, being to be basic thing, it does, but it comments concerning not being known excessively. There is a color handle of the male period, with the person who has the fact that breeding it does, clear it is the mosaic, when it reaches size of 4 month rank, the point of the tail the rose beam り, or largely being lacking in broom condition, above that becoming large, the person who does the kind of experience where it does not heal, thinks that it is rather many. Many of this cause are thought that there is a quality of the handle which the mosaic has. As for that, when the part of the pattern where the mosaic is black, protruding in the leading edge of the tail, with the phenomenon which occurs, there is a pliability, there is no advanced part of the tail, originally it is thought that it happens because the part where the expectation which is inside is brittle goes outside. As for this, it is possible almost to prevent by choosing the female well. When this kind of state appears in the male, when you look at the female around that carefully, it is the expectation where those where the part of black pattern has protruded to the point of the tail are to be many. When this female is used, the male of the following generation is cut off with considerable probability, the time where pattern is clear, the tail. Observing the female well, it is necessary to try not to choose this kind of female.

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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2006, 01:26:00 am »
How to choose the female of mosaic

Breeding when doing the guppy whose appreciation value is high, it is to choose the female whose important thing is best. Not only in order this is applicable to all kinds, to maintain the identical kind, when breeding even, as a breeding technique, most about to require caution it is. As if from quality the quantity not only doing the many taking and excessive destruction of life, that raising tanks of a quantity which is limited are used wastefully it is thought to the unnecessary 仔 in order for you to decrease your own pleasure. In order to be able to increase the pleasure, with the deliberate breeding and breeding technique whose quality is high, heart per seat it is something which wants.
To choose the female of the mosaic, you remember the image of the fish which first, you make your own purpose, you find the male which is close to that, or when that does not serve, you begin from the fact that the male which had the element in the midst of that image is found. For that, looking at the fish many, it is necessary to walk, but, as for the kind of fish which is thought very it probably is normal in actuality not to be found. Then, we will assume that the mosaic of the normal level that entered into the hand, this time especially it is not good, is not bad.
First, F1 is taken. If the young parent, 2nd to choose the following parent from midst of the 3rd child, after being brought up in 4 month rank, when the pairing it does, it is good, probably will be. However, this time already, the parent compared to, when level has decreased considerably, while being quick, perhaps this system dealing with, profitable step.
If the mosaic, even with the child of the same stomach, is considerable an individual difference and takes the child many, in the male, it is good those which are close to your own taste to be found. At this stage it stops you do not obtain either the quantity from quality, probably will be. Assuming that the male of the taste used several Hikimi, is the most important place from now on. It means that to tell the truth it is that even in the female that it is considerable individual difference in the male. But, it seems that is the male in the female, difference of the remarkable color handle because it is not, from midst extremely of the delicate difference does not choose those which are in type of male and the て is the case that it does not become. It is necessary to observe the female well, to train the eye. So, concretely it was in feature of the male, it will try thinking concerning the method of choosing the female.
Type of male it tries searching the female which separately, is agreeable to several respectively. After all, the female which had the tail of the blue of the transparent feeling is chosen in the male of the dense red where there is a transparent impression. The transparent impression of the tail of the male that turbidity condition of the female, in other words, is decided by the cloth which is expressed before. The mosaic of this type can take the child of the same level with considerable probability, but it becomes monotonous color of red and black, it seems that appreciation value is high and with cannot say.
The orange and red etc., there is a thickness, when we would like to make the tail of the feeling which is bright, the female which has, turbidity such as yellow and cream color in cloth of the tail is chosen. Black and those where the handle which dark blue is densely clear has entered are succeeded even in the male of the 仔, but having become the feeling where this handle becomes blurred, when it is the mosaic, always becomes the handle whose all males are similar with not to limit, the handle it was, clear to in, the very clean male blending, it is good to be born. In addition, the this kind of, in case of the female which has the tail handle of the feeling which becomes blurred, those which in the flow of system of the male, the ま じ obtained yellow and yellow green, etc. have the character of the polychromatic tail handle be inherited it seems the many way. Simply, in case of the female of this type, the breeder the long period of time, having maintained with the same system, when the following 仔 can be estimated, as another, the latest way, it makes, when sorting regarding the purpose that, a better mosaic, removes as is lacking in the deciding factor, you think that the one which is safe.
As written to here color, it is divided, but then, it becomes the deciding factor of the mosaic handle, how it chooses the hyperchromic part, is. Because it is distinguished with the handle where this enters into the tail of the female, it is possible to choose those which are in the taste. However, as the photograph expressed before, in reference, you will avoid any where lower part of the thing and the kind of tail where the whole tail has been buried with the hyperchromic handle becomes muscle in emission line.
You wrote to here concerning the mosaic, but concerning the female choosing of the mosaic tuxedo basically it is the same. Simply, in case of the tuxedo, because entire color than the mosaic, considerably becomes dark, it is necessary to insert this point in consideration. You write afterwards concerning the blue system of the mosaic. You write with the following section concerning the female choosing in order to attach メリハリ to the handle.

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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2006, 01:28:36 am »
How to choose the female of mosaic (the 2) メリハリ

With the front section, basic thing of method of choosing the female of the mosaic was written, but from here, considerably it becomes high-level ones as a breeding technique. But, because, you think as the thing to which also the eye which distinguishes the female of the mosaic is accustomed considerably to with the front section, furthermore it will first advance.
It maintains the kind, furthermore, to level up, something important? It is that barely to display the remarkable feature which appears in the male, in only individual difference and to grasp from midst of many females. This is applicable to all kinds. So, it is theme of this section, メリハリ of the mosaic handle, the female which displays this probably is what kind of female.
First, it appears in the tail handle of the male, as for the white coloration where the hyperchromic part is surrounded being some kind of ones? It tries thinking concerning this. Even, so far several degrees you expressed, but as for the big primary factor, there is the cloth. But, furthermore the big primary factor joins to this coloration. That I think silver coloration. It has been similar to the coloration by the platinum gene to which this, is attached, before the kind name, such as platinum mosaic and platinum lead tail becomes independent, but distinguishing with this, please think.
This silver coloration is seen in many admiration fishes, but in case of the guppy very individual difference that, it has appeared in most kinds. Especially here several years, those where this coloration is strong have become many in the kind of popularity such as the German yellow. This can by the platinum gene, it is not sudden expression, being something which can by selection selection it does. As feature, the coloration by the platinum gene relative, the upper body of the body, it appears on the center, this silver coloration, the proboscis, from the head the back, applying in the tail covert, becomes expression of the white gold vis-a-vis kind of those which can call also color the platinum gold being many, the time appears even in the pectoral fin. In case of the tuxedo, hyperchromic of the lower half body and this glossy contrast shows that fish gorgeously. So, with the body of normal how probably will be vis-a-vis the tuxedo?
Those which have the bright color where when you compare with tuxedo system, originally gloss there is a fish of the body of normal are many, this silver coloration is not conspicuous excessively. But, certainly, there is this coloration even in the normal body, it is possible to make this express strongly with selection selection. And, this coloration furthermore has produced effect to the caudal fin of the male. With the German yellow to the caudal fin it will be dazzlingly gloss to give, with those which is this coloration and those which are not, big difference is acquired to brightness of color of the caudal fin even in the other kind. I in case of the fish of mosaic type, think that it has become the big primary factor where this silver coloration gives メリハリ to the tail handle.



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   Preface became long, but it moves to this subject more and more. Whether so, how you look at the female which had this element and can boil, that is enterprise secret. With it is we would like to say, but above writing, it is not possible to stop here to here. Please look at the female of the mosaic or mosaic tuxedo carefully. The back fin from rear, putting on the joint of the caudal fin immediately, just a little just aren't those which is coloration of the silver found? There is this coloration, the caudal fin to be bright the white っ ぽ く those which have become turbid is best. The photograph (1) (2) is the same fish. At my greenhouse, in the male of this system, as for individual difference although it is, there is silver coloration in everyone body, there is edging which is white in the hyperchromic part of the caudal fin. There is no this coloration in the photograph (3), the tail of the male of the mosaic of this system becomes red and black. Because the use of this female it is separately, you write afterwards.
The fact that you write is choice method of the female where entirely, on the basis of the raising experience of my mosaic system, I presently have gone to here. Therefore, at the present my greenhouse breeding is done with this method, almost, there is no big failure. But, when this is begun from one, if it becomes, it is not the meaning where everything goes at one time well. Whenever by his first, emphasis is put on something, whether color whether pattern whether メリハリ, decides theme, piles up the generation it must clear little by little. This, with using the female which is thought, it is good for the result not to be good. Being something which rises little by little it does the probability where the good result is produced. Beginning, in other words, from the fact that the normal mosaic is purchased, it is to finish that to level, being quick, you think that about three years are required, but that much without catching, it does, time in everyone who has read "releasing this mosaic" the ょ う. By all means, please challenge. In addition, it is not necessary to begin from the fish of unreasonably low level. <DELTA please consult the one where we would like to purchase the fish which responds to level SPACE>.
With the following section, concerning the guppy contest we would like to try writing a little. That next you write concerning the various variations of the mosaic.
There is the request in the one which is reading "releasing the mosaic". Concerning these contents the method which has opinion and especially opposite opinion, the question box, or, at the mail please contribute.

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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2006, 01:37:35 am »
You wrote to here, concerning the mosaic, but resting, a little concerning the contest "releasing the mosaic" we would like to try writing.
Before the that, you look back at the fact that you write to here, would like to add somewhat correction.
First, (feature of the female of the mosaic) in the section, the tail handle of the male is not reflected on the male of the next generation, that you wrote, but this is not accurate. Importance of the female is emphasized excessively this way, being to write, it does, but, as for the color handle of the body heredity from the male is really succeeded and, effect is produced to also the caudal fin. As for this being because the mosaic gene exists even in the Y chromosome, when being rebuilding the mosaic, when you use the female of the lead tail and the lead tail tuxedo, vis-a-vis the male of the mosaic the caudal fin of F1 in red area becomes spot pattern of black. It is found even from this that the male of the mosaic has produced effect on the handle of the male of the next generation. But, as for to the last determining the color handle of the caudal fin of the male of the next generation as for the male you think with the female that what you think that it is no more than an auxiliary role, is the shortcut to the thing which levels up the mosaic. Because, selection of the male the other kind similarly, first such as physique, somatotype and swimming, after clearing general prerequisite, choose those of the color handle of your own taste, being good reason, it is not necessary to think excessively seriously. In other words, those which appear simply in the eye should have been chased reason being, the breeder which is not accustomed becomes tend to depend on that. But, depending on the male, without seriously considering the female choosing, when it is, because the mosaic mostly fails, is. (Notes were added to the text.)






   

About the contest

   History of the guppy contest is old other than, it seems that before 30 years above, I about 4 years as for the time where the guppy has been raised am called the first following boom from now, am held actively at the every place in Japan. I of the time did not rub thinking, still junior high school, it exhibits to the contest with the high school student e.g., with. After that as the fire goes out, it ended boom, also the contest left part and the majority disappeared. The diamond guppy contest being famous as remains, until about 7 years ago the history is closed, year one time, 25th it continued up to time. The time where at this contest informs end, the contest which already the guppy shop and the like sponsors was held at the every place, second next guppy boom had started. In addition, the Japanese guppy association started, became the motive force which uplift boom. Has the contest which at the time when you can call to after that several years peak of boom is done at the every place in Japan and to increase number, in the headquarters conference and the like of guppy association the fact that the number of exhibitions exceeds 400 points it is the extent which.
The fact that it had become the opportunity which you try that I will exhibit to the contest, was, conversation with the regular of that store with a certain guppy specialty store. After beginning the guppy again, about half year the time where it passes was. When the fish which I want at that store is searched, that person depending on side, "it is to be put out to the contest? "With thing you called to throwing. Still, just began the guppy I in the word to be frightened, "it is outrageous, the large quantity swim you just want. "With you answered. Then conversation starts, the guppy contest is not something just of the special person, anyone exhibiting, you could teach that it is something which can enjoy.
   Then about one year later, the domestic guppy which is bought for the first time, the albino which comes coming out of the lead glass (ルチノー) second generation reached size about of extent, straining courage exhibited, with became the carrying which is said. As for the result proper thing only participation prize, but, the feel which it exhibits to the contest for the first time, can with that then Seki of my guppy taking comparatively, was very valuable ones. As for that comparing with my fish and the superior winning a prize fish, as for difference it is doing, that much they are not extreme ones, once upon a time, it was to realize that certainly it can win. After the that 2 - 3 times, it is close in year, exhibiting to only the contest which can carry the fish by your of the place, it enjoyed. As for goal superior winning a prize photograph publication. As for the time both FM and the AL magazine it dispatched the cameraman to the contest meeting place, photographed the fish about of the superior 10 points and on the magazine had published. But it was obstacle this for me. Always, being to go to the vicinity, it does, but being about, rear one step it does not reach. Prize my immediately above not being photograph publication, when in the previous contest of the same sponsor the prize which is published I receive, without being published and/or and so on there being a thing which is said often several years passed. In these several years, beginning the guppy anew, either one year without passing, above I, have made goal, the person who takes prize, in addition, the people and many people who several degrees take prize, keep stopping directly it is. Perhaps that my guppy is continued soon, experience and regret of this time become the spring.
And, achieving first goal, the stripe uninformed this time the position keeping, furthermore synthesis victory became new goal. In this way, with goal while continuing breeding for by your and levelling up the kind you think that it kept being connected to improving of technology.
Beginning, to the contest it exhibited, participated and it knew your own level you have at your own guppy the other person look by, breeding doing it learned in good sense with the strain. Next, the goal which levels up the kind was possible. And presently, it maintains level, furthermore it has become stimulus in order to obtain good ones. In addition, you knew each other via the contest, you do not have to forget also the existence of the seniors and the friends.
With the contents, guppy contest for me, only private thing wrote to here, but lastly we would like to try commenting concerning present general examination. You think that it should have become reference of the one which the one which is not left over contest exhibition experience, you intend to begin from this.
Presently, the guppy contest which is held in the Japanese country is thought that east west together it exceeds 20. Many contests other than the Japanese guppy association sponsoring are done the amateur guppy club which the tropical fish shop or those shops which handles the guppy specialty store or the domestic guppy supports sponsoring. In case of in each case following to the standard of the respective group, it is examined, can decide ranking. As a form of examination, the thing and the classified by kind and there are some which examine the classified by section which decide ranking with synthesis examination. In Japan it is adopted in the Japanese guppy association as a unique example, there is a breeder mail section. If this, the same kind, is possible, the same uterus, it exhibits with the combination, male 3 tail and the female 1 tail of the same level. You can call also very harsh rule, depending upon the kind, but when examining workmanship not only one individual, as that kind, it is thought as rational rule.
As for examination standard the to express statement there are also some which are converted, but many examinations being something due to the synthesis of the score by the group of judges, have consisted with the reliance relationship between the exhibition person and the judge. Because is, the person who vents dissatisfaction concerning the examination result it is in, but this should be restrained.
Concerning examination item, being to be a score card of a certain principal group, it places here as one example.



    SIZE    FORM    COLOR AND HANDLE    LIVELINESS AND SWIMMING 5
 BODY           8        10              12                   COMPREHENSIVE BALANCE 10                                 
 CORDAL    10         10      18                    TOTAL 100
 BACK FIN     6           5      6   


Even in addition there is various examination standards, but as for being the difference depending upon the group at distribution extent of score of each item, as for other things it seems that is not big difference. However, in addition, inserting production degree of hardness of the kind as the important element in consideration, there are times when it examines, synthesis score when it does not make when this is considered depending upon the kind there are times when it is different largely. Production degree of hardness, about the kind which assumes that systematic maintenance and levelling up are difficult generally, becomes high. There are also some whose it is difficult to procure those whose quality is good as a seeding parent in. You call superior monopoly and the like of the popularity kind by inserting this in consideration, it seems that is also method of thinking of decreasing the deviation of kind. Simply, the fact that here it becomes problem is, the judge how much has wide knowledge concerning the respective kind. In order not to be criticized the side which it examines concerning the result, it is necessary always to store knowledge. Me you think, it tries increasing several kind whose production degree of hardness is high. When the blue mosaic tuxedo, the albino (ルチノー) the glass type cobra of the German yellow and the blue (the metal enters, it becomes easy), it is various to in addition to such as swallow system. While it is high level to maintain long, it is very difficult you can call these the kind whose.
When there is an opportunity, and so on concerning the guppy which is exhibited to the contest in addition concerning the contest, including, we would like to try writing.
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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2006, 01:45:32 am »
Blue mosaic(part 1)



The end of in the past time comparatively, this time, when you write concerning the various variations of the mosaic you notified, but concerning the recent blue mosaic in order mainly to have received question, you try to first pick up this.
Concerning this kind, it is said that from the time before, systematic maintenance is very difficult. Actually, before, systematic maintenance and the like, this kind seeding parent itself is difficult to enter to the hand, is present condition. With the tropical fish shop which handles the domestic guppy that form is almost not happened to see, even in the guppy specialty store the fact that it can encounter those where the grade is high seems like rare. It is found that systematic maintenance of the blue mosaic is difficult even from this. The fact that the blue mosaic which can be sold is made is the work which is not agreeable comparatively with even the professional breeder. In addition, looking at the book and the like regarding the guppy which past is published, this the blue mosaic, with it cannot depend on the eye easily in the individual which you say. So first, thinking from this point whether, the blue mosaic why like this is difficult, you will see.


The blue mosaic if presently in breeding, or it is the one which past has raisingexperience, is thought as being understood, it means, but because it designated this kind as the genotype which simply simply the blue, in other words calls the body color of the mosaic of red type Rr be inherited, saying, without being something which comes out and comes. As for the fish of this stage, the crest where the majority is red in the hypogastrium enters, the spot handle which is similar to the glass where the caudal fin is small thin, becomes something which the mosaic cannot be said at all. The blue mosaic being this, ability of the breeder is doubted. With says, continuing to take the 仔 this way, only the similar individual comes out. Mostly, as for the person is not to abandon at this point in time, probably will be? In addition, when red of the hypogastrium takes, the tail handle becomes not to be spot, this time conversely, the hyperchromic part becoming blurred, it seems that spread, it does and it becomes the pattern which does not have the ball. But, when making the blue mosaic, you can call that, red of the hypogastrium took, big progress. If you do not make a mistake in the female at this stage, it meaning that the rather good individual comes out in the following generation, it does, but without thinking at all, when the female is chosen, it returns to starting point. Is not that the breeders where from such a thing, this kind cracks, manages the question whose maintenance is difficult are few, probably will be? So why, this kind it probably is to become this kind of phenotype?
Because as for me, the article and the kind of literature which are elucidated be inherited in the past, concerning this, have not been viewed to, to the last, we refuse the fact that you release on the basis of the presumption with former experience, in advance. However, at my greenhouse, it seems that is the photograph under, usual making the blue mosaic, or the kind of blue mosaic type, stock we have done. These being never not to be the accidental product once to make sure.


   
Blue mosaic


Coral blue mosaic

Platinum aquamarine blue
Mosaic

OF blue mosaic

First, whether why is, it will try presuming that the red crest enters in the hypogastrium from various angles. You do not know whether this phenomenon, it probably means that the one such as heredity is better in me, whether this is called in some name. But, it is possible to presume from the result of breeding some kind of ones. So, be inherited some kind of ones, it will try analyzing.
It will try remembering the history of the guppy. It is called from the neon tuxedo of the outside product that it reaches the point where blue body color is recognized. After that when the blue glass is made, this spreads generally, it reached the point where the kind of various blue types is made to in addition to. In other words, first it appears as the domestic guppy of blue type, it is decided the blue glass that it reaches the point where you are raised explosively with entire country, as a result, the kind of blue type which presently is raised in the Japanese country grows hoarse and grows hoarse multi little, in the past almost, pulls 100% this blood, that you can say.
When the female or the male of the blue glass is hybridized in the male or the female of the red type mosaic, it can take the 仔 the tail handle where the red crest enters in the kind of hypogastrium which is written exactly first like center of the mosaic and the glass in the following generation. You can ask the connection even from this. So, thinking whether be inherited it is something of some kind of character, you will see this.
First, relative frequency of this character as for beginning from the fact that almost it is 100%, as for being latter, knows easily those the tail handle this red crest and like the glass due to individual difference whether or, whether it is something due to the influence of a some gene. So, this it probably is the gene of some character.
Several what is thought being certain, while to suppose, it keeps eliminating.
1, this gene isonsex chromosome Y, from the male thing of the form which is inherited) it does to the male in other words, limit characteristic heredity (with the gene being on the Y chromosome, that when you supposed, to make the blue mosaic which does not have the red crest, this genepasses throughfrom the Y chromosome and it waits for the fact that it falls, in other words, to become, correct answer cannot call to only waiting for mutation, probably will be.
2, this gene independently ison sex chromosome X, when you supposed, that and thing of the form which is inherited in the female) it does in the male, in other words, sex-linked inheritance (with the gene which is on the X-chromosome to make the blue mosaic which does not have the red crest, if glass system and the female of the red type mosaic hybridization it has not done is used, the male of that child means to be gone 100% that. But, there is no certain basis, but thinking from present condition of the blue mosaic, the kind of air which it passes easily does this hypothesis.
3, from this kind of thought, as for me as for this gene it being on the autosome, that it has presumedwhetherit is not to be the relation which is close with the r gene which forms the blue. In addition, considered as the relative frequency, as for being dominant heredity you are not wrong, probably will be.
So, whether it is some kind of gene it will try imagining this. However, because, I being the simply breeder, am not the researcher of the guppy, as for accurate thing it is not understood. Because also this entirely is an imagination, please laugh the person who is thought that by mistake it is. Kind one requests opinion. However, dissenting opinion that to add in writing the reason, we ask the one.
The gene is installed in the chromosome, but often, it moves between the chromosome. This is not the case that this gene moves unsteadily selfishly, it seems that accidentally, portion of the chromosome which tears, is stuck in the other chromosome, becomes the one part of that. This is called dislocation. Dislocation happens even between the sex chromosome and the autosome, the case of the platinum gene is well known even with heredity of the guppy. Originally,it wason the Y chromosome, the platinum gene dislocation doing on the autosome, it is said that those which somewhat changed the character are the gene of ミカリフ and the solid. Like this example, when the gene moved to the autosome from the sex chromosome, those which are dominant heredity, seem that is many also a thing which changes character to inferior heredity. This on the basis of, being to try thinking concerning the tail handle the red crest of the latest blue mosaic and like the glass it does, but when you say from conclusion, is not to have exertedinfluenceonthe kind whichfaintly originally, sex chromosome X, the glass gene which is on Y dislocation makes on the autosome, with blue system, especially expresses such as blue mosaic and blue mosaic cobra color, probably will be? The blue glass appearing, spreads nationwide from prompt time, even presently it is the German yellow tuxedo and the popularity kind which disputes one and two rank. You are raised in Japan, have repeated generation. In case of the guppy, the small-scale mutation like dislocation cracks, often the question which has happened this time it has picked up, has happened to the blue glass, that kind of thinking, that you think whether it is not to be good. And, the aforementioned way, multi he to grow hoarse, he to grow hoarse little, because the blue mosaic pulls the blood of the blue glass, that being to think, whether it is not to receive the influence of this gene strongly it does.
What is thought, also without calling correct answer to here, if that much the mark that it is not something which comes off if it does, it is the experience abundant breeder, it is it can make the blue mosaic. First you can improve as for the tail handle and the spread etc. which you expressed, become blurred securely by choosing the female. You will see as for the next time when how it does concretely, in addition, to make the blue mosaic of the clean tail handle, concerning thinking whether the blue mosaic which does not have the red crest can be made, how it should have done and so on.

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2006, 02:02:36 am »
Blue mosaic (part 2)

You tried presuming the last time concerning the heredity of the blue mosaic, but this time to remove the gene which becomes the disturbance for the blue mosaic, thinking how it should have done, you see. Because there was a part which is thought that before the that, the last time it is difficult to know a little, it supplements concerning that. In addition, portion of contents of the part of that was corrected.
The last time, as for me, in the hypogastrium of the blue mosaic red mottle it appears, the tail handle the gene which is made the detailed spot pattern like the glass presumed that it is on the autosome, but as for this reason you say that it is difficult simply to maintain the blue mosaic, the general scale it only tried doing this kind of presumption from raising experience of my self-confidence. If if, it means that this gene is on the sex chromosome, to be said that breeding of the blue mosaic is difficult, because the reason that the breeders which really maintain this kind quite are few, that is thought whether it is not it is not is. When it is the truth, me concerning the blue mosaic, the latest way, that deep thought is reflected upon after because this home page is released, starting writing "releasing the mosaic" it is. In order to make the beautiful blue mosaic, the gene which becomes the disturbance must be removed, the thought always was in the head,, but it is unprecedented really to make composition. Therefore, still this presumption is not approved and, in addition, it approves, time is required. First you wrote then,when you supposed that it is on the X-chromosome, including, we would like to try devising of breeding method. The photograph under is the typical individual of this type.







   


   When you supposed, that this gene is on the X-chromosome, this to specify, some kind of gene to remove this considerably it is easy when it compares with the case where it is on the autosome. Those where it is thought, are the glass gene and the ヘテロモルファgene etc., but whether or not the hetero mol フ ァgene, produces the kind of effect which has been picked up here on the blue mosaic, it is not understood.
As for this gene the other many gene similarly, with respect to appearance appears in only the male, cannot distinguish from the female. But,if we assume that it is on the X-chromosome, because being able to specify the place it is the case that it is, it is not that much difficult to remove this.
First, the individual where this influence has appeared, a be inherited with the blue mosaic, there is red mottle in the hypogastrium, there is no thickness in the caudal fin, you must use the male which has the detailed spot like the glass as the kind parent when, you cannot use the female of the same uterus as this. Because the female of this uterus minimum of 1, according to when, is thoughtthat in the both X-chromosome, it has this gene, is. If the female which is used this time the female of the red type mosaic, is possible, those which are thought that it has not hybridized with the glass are best. The group of females are attached after all vis-a-vis the group of males. When just it chose the young female where it is possible and could take the 仔 you remember the respective female bore which 仔. This when with important thing, per the female is found, when this larva grew, becomes necessary. When in these females, those which do not have the crest which the male which is borne entirely is red appear, per that is the female. If the male in this female and the 仔, or it does not have the red crest, you are not concerned even with another male. If this is hybridized, those which both the male female can be called the blue mosaic once come out. In addition, this female (the parent) from when it cannot take the 仔, the female of that 仔 is used. Because these females are the case thatit has the gene which on the X-chromosome of all one side becomes the disturbance, those 仔 those which have this gene both the thing male female which it does not have come out with half-and-half probability. After that, if the group of females are attached with the same method, the probability which can find the female the around directly becomes high. Directly when per the female is not found, for example, when those which have the red crest those which it does not have come out half-and-half and the like even, using the male of better one, if you attach the female of red type newly, the female the around is found by all means.
To here, it is the method of removing that whenyou supposedthat the gene of red mottle is on sex chromosome X. When it tries making composition, it seems the long way, that, you think, but method itself of thinking is not that much difficult.
  As for next the gene which appears red mottle, is on the autosome, that it is the method of removing, this when you supposed. As written on the front section, I on the sex chromosome compared to, that being to think, whether it is not this one, do, this gene, but because presently, it is about it approves, time is required, when, but you can verify, we inform.
When this gene is on the autosome, considerably it becomes difficult job to remove this, in comparison with the case where it is on the sex chromosome. Because that when you say, why, when the male has this gene, whether that is some position it cannot specify that, is.
Speaking concretely, when this is to on the sex chromosome,becauseit is the case that it is on X side, this gene is inherited to only the female of the 仔 from the male parent. Vis-a-vis this, when it is on the autosome of the male parent, it means the male, being inherited to the female both 仔 from the male parent. The reproduction cell of the male separating, subtrahend when making the spermatozoon,because the side which includes the X-chromosomeandit moves with the same probability to the side which includes the Y chromosome is. Breeding you must do the notion that where in mind and furthermore, sameasthe female, the thing and21 it has this gene it is two kinds of those which it has even in the male.
   In this case, it begins the appearance of the male from same ones. Also the female chooses under the same conditions as aforementioned ones. Because, phenotype being the same, is the case that it is combination of the gene of two kinds in the male, when it hybridizes the male female, the method, group of females vis-a-vis the group of males does not come off. Vis-a-vismale 1, female several you call it makes several combination, it judges with the ratio of the 仔 where the respective female bears. As a result, when those which have the mottle where the male which is born is red and those which it does not have half-and-half are only, per it can the female. As for combination of the parent who is thought from the result, it is not other than the male which1had this gene and the female which does not have this gene. However, like relative frequency of ratio and the ribbon where the male female is born, because there is a variation in that occasionally uterus, it is not possible, certainty without fail. It can presume the combination of the various parents even from relative frequency of the 仔 other than this, but because it becomes long, here you exclude. Breeding method after this is the same as before. When and, the male which has red mottle stops appearing, the fact that especially noting means it tries not to use the female which identity is not understood. Because with appearance of the female distinction is not attached completely, it is necessary always to have been conscious of this. When you make a mistake here, it returns to starting point
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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2006, 02:10:16 am »
Blue mosaic (part 3)

This time, the blue mosaic (that 1, the part 2) with it touched, because you have happened to think anew in these several weeks concerning the gene which appears the caudal fin of the spot condition the red group of the hypogastrium and like the glass, with this section modifying schedule, concerning that we would like to try expressing.
The last time, the blue mosaic (the part 2) from the beginning of June which is released, at my greenhouse, the successively new 仔 is born presently has been tackled this section even between approximately 1 month half to in late July, is brought up. Among those, blue mosaic system of several systems it is.



(1)
(2)
(3)

The photograph (1) as for (2) the May first third origin, as for the parent it is the blue mosaic tuxedo male and the mosaic tuxedo female. In this uterus all blue mosaics the photograph (1) became similar excluding the tuxedo. In addition, as for red, the photograph (2) almost same ones have been even.
The photograph (3) the middle of April origin, is the 仔 of the blue mosaic male and the mosaic ribbon female. There is no red group in the male parent, very difference of the color handle that, as for the 仔 where the red group has come out even 1 it was not even in the 仔.
In addition, the blue mosaic breeding is done, even in the breeder of several people of the acquaintance, it had informing about the recent result, but considerably the red group appeared in just several among the blue mosaics of number, or completely conversely as for honest ones e.g., the several only it could take, when, this, the kind of answering which becomes the judgement material which it is clear is not obtained. Among such, it tries expressing that you happen to think as one hypothesis.
As the blue mosaic (that 1, the part 2) with expressed already, the primary factor which appears the individual the photograph (1) the way is my thought whether it is not to be a glass gene. And that that thought whether it is not to exist in the form which becomes independent on the autosome or the sex chromosome. But, recently, as for that you became aware in being limited thought.
In case of the guppy, the gene which appears, the form which such as color appears on the outside, handle and shape of the fin exists in the respective position on the chromosome, when it is independent, expresses feature of that gene to the body without interfering to the other gene. For example, the mosaic gene, this, sex chromosomeY,it beingon X, expresses the kind, mosaic. Vis-a-vis this, when there is another gene on the respective chromosome, for example,whenthe gene on the Y chromosome becomes the cobra gene, it becomes the mosaic cobra. This way, it is the case that the various kinds are made by the combination of the gene which becomes independent, but when this furthermore keeps developing, those which have the gene where plural becomes independent on one chromosome with mutation such as gene recombination, appeared. Presently, many kinds such as galaxy and metal cobra are produced. These in each case as, the platinum and the cobra, metal and the cobra on the identical chromosome, give the expression which is different from even each one, it has the plural genes. And, not just on the identical chromosome, when there is a gene where plural phenotypes differ, difference of various superiority or inferiority appears in that expression. When the metal cobra at the one of that, originally, the metal gene and the cobrageneexist independently on the Y chromosome, the entire body becomes the respective metal coloration or cobra pattern. However when these genes exist simultaneously, the expression, as, the upper body metal coloration and the lower half body cobra pattern, dividing into the region, reaches the point where you display existence. In addition, like the tuxedo at the time of normal body color, there is also a kind of gene which hides the other all color handle in the hyperchromic part. Again, preface became long, but when it tries reflecting upon thought, on the basis of this, concerning the mosaic and the glass gene how probably will be.
When as for the mosaic and the glass gene it is originally independently on the sex chromosome,theseare evenon Y and the X-chromosome and existing the kind, mosaic or the glass is expressed. So, when the mosaic and the glass are hybridized, how it becomes, probably will be. When the dorsal fin of the mosaic it is large the paragraph wanting, in addition, when liking to designate the mosaic as blue body color and the like, we well used the technique which hybridizes the glass or the blue glass in the mosaic. F1 of this time is called グラモ, and the like becomes the feeling, mosaic which the glass applies a little. As recognized even with the result, as superiority or inferiority of expression of the glass and the mosaic is quick and the mosaic has won, it is thought. This F1 is the case that it has the gene of the glass and the mosaic independently on the respective sex chromosome. But, while repeating this kind of hybridization, those which have the mosaic and the glass gene simultaneously on the identical sex chromosome due to gene recombination, appeared, when we assume that this kept spreading, how probably will be? This time you happened to think, it is this. The mosaic of red type because of the handle which it is the color clear seems that does not receive the influence of the glass gene excessively strongly, but when it becomes the blue mosaic, that it is thought whether, whether it is not to receive that influence honestly. In addition, when the gene of this type,existingon Y and X chromosome, when either one existing on the one hand, is not that also the expression is different, probably will be? In addition, because it is not possible, to pull out the glass gene in this case intend, while looking at the result, there is no method of should try not to use this kind of system probably will be.
This with the simply idea, as for being clear it is not found yet. Simply, when the individual the photograph (1) the way, thinks of the present condition which appears forever, with unexpectedly being this kind of reason, with you think. Concerning this, please communicate the method which has opinion by all means. We wait.
You write next, concerning the method of choosing the female of the blue mosaic.

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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2006, 02:21:46 am »
Blue mosaic (how to choose the female of part 4) blue mosaic

When choosing the female of the blue mosaic, the guppy which similar to the time of the female choosing of the mosaic, by your it tries you probably to make is remembered, the female which it corresponds to that is not chosen and the て does not become. So, the blue mosaic of ideal probably is what kind of guppy. It tried remembering in my appearance.
First, it is the body, but if about extent, gloss of the blue of the tannin め is a size and the tail covert will have been secure, there is no problem, probably will be. The back fin does not expect about the tuxedo and the glass, but size of the extent which billows lightly does with desire forcing ones. As for color, you think that white the faint blue, largely densely spot of dark blue or black of the eye is good entering.
And, it is the caudal fin, but as for this you think that the taste divides somewhat the place where. Considerably, the blue mosaic whose degree of completion is high is divided into two types broadly. One quickly and in the foundation of the blue which has the transparent impression of the dense eye black or those where the mosaic handle of dark blue enters densely, as for one more, the white っ ぽ it is in the whole and the mosaic handle enters into the foundation of the blue, being something where edging which is white around this hyperchromic handle enters, does. As as for my taste with latter one, the white っ ぽ is and blue of the foundation there is a thickness furthermore those which are visible blue are ideal. In regrettable thing, this kind of blue mosaic as for me still it has not made and, either with other things it has not viewed to. So it will try searching the female which is applicable to these two types.
First first, clearing it is type of caudal fin of blue of eye whose feeling is a little dense, but you spokethis with color of cloth of the < tailandthe section of thickness >,


the transparency or please think blue system of the type which places the color handle in the cloth which is close to that. With normal body color and the basis is the same with blue body color. Those whose cloth is close transparently clearing become the blue of feeling, as for those which have the turbidity in cloth, there is a thickness, become the blue of the feeling which is bright. Also method of choosing the female is the same as the time of red type. In the foundation which has the transparent impression from the female of red type, black or densely those where the handle of dark blue has surfaced cleanly are chosen. Size of the handle is the taste of the breeder, but because the blue it is tend to become detailed spot in comparison with the time of red type, larger texture than the male which imagine by your the female which has the tail handle will be chosen. The photograph (1) is this type. The real thing rather than seeing with the photograph, is the transparent feeling. (2)method of choosing the female of the < mosaic (one time is the femaleof the same type which has been introduced with the 2) メリハリ >. Why whether it chooses the female from red system, the section before this (that 1 - the part 3) with it is as spoken. This type is easy to enter, relatively breeding being easier than latter, the handles and cleanly, the failure work are somber few. In addition, as for the blue mosaic of this type at the time of normal body color, being darkly red, profoundness the mosaic which is not it differs clearly in impression of the eye which you saw, those whose degree of completion is high very are beautiful, can have the expectation of superior winning a prize even in the contest. Furthermore when silver coloration joins to this, it becomes the fish which is close to ideal. The photograph above with the blue mosaic which in January receives synthesis victory in the the fish Shonan contest, as a type is applicable to this.


(1)
(2)
(3)

Next is a thickness in the tail, it is the type which the white っ ぽ く is visible a little. This is a weak point that by comparison with former, by any means the white っ ぽ く it is visible because there is the turbidity in cloth of the tail,, but profoundness of the caudal fin the empty calling, as for me as a blue mosaicthis one as for ranking thinks on from former.


In addition, to make those whose degree of completion is high in this type, other than the eye which chooses the female, considerable luck is necessary. As for the photograph (3) as for the real thing it is visible bluer than the photograph with the female of this type. There is also the coloration where the tail covert top which silver coloration the chart is done is white, makes the next generation expect. But, big risk is accompanied to the fact that it chooses this as the dam. To tell the truth when you use the pair of the male female of this type, as the parent it meaning that almost the tail becomes yellow it does the 仔 . Simply, because extremely the sometimes very it can take beautiful 仔, as for the value which risks risk that you think whether it is. The blue mosaic of this tie プ is maintained, is experience is necessary. When choosing the parent, while remembering the fish which you make your own goal, the color tone which kind parent candidacy of the male and the female has well the delicate difference of the handle, balance the technique that becomes important the く it is combined. This it is! With the female which is thought calls the large end, in this type it is good densely, it is important but without abandoning, spending time, breeding to do. In addition, you can call the female (3) the way, that risk is large in regard to the blue mosaic but, with OF and coral system and the like the function which is very good is done even with the same blue mosaic system. It keeps writing concerning the various variations of the mosaic and blue mosaic type from from the next section.

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2006, 02:29:43 am »
Application of mosaic (part 1)

   You write from here concerning the variation of the various mosaics. Speaking simply, it is the kind which is named mosaic system. Those which include also those where I presently am in the midst of continuing so far, have breeding experience are as follows with typical ones.


Mosaic
Platinum mosaic
Metal Moscow
Platinum aquamarine mosaic Mosaic tuxedo
Old fashion mosaic
Full metal mosaic
サンタマリアモザイク Coral mosaic
Mosaic cobra
Aquamarine mosaic
Galaxy mosaic

  Furthermore, the respective blue system, concerning several kinds the grape eye albino (ルチノー), RRE. A, golden and ribbon type there is raising experience. When it counts these individual as the kind, it reaches a quantity which exceeds 30 kinds, but one in these as for is being in common, as for the female it means the mosaic, in other words, having Mo and the mosaic gene on the X-chromosome. Of course, as for body color heredity and the long fin etc. of the albino and the like, furthermore the gene of another type is necessary, but the gene which becomes the basis of mosaic type is the same. Be inherited it becomes this kind of explanation, but really more simplicity, as for the female of the mosaic as for the tuxedo being in common to every kind which is listed on, as another, it means being able to use.
Already it explains a little concerning heredity. In heredity of phenotype like body color heredity the gene being on the autosome, it being on the thing and sex chromosome X where it is inherited regardless of the male female in the same way as former it being on thing, and sex chromosome Y which are inherited without distinction of the male female from the male there are some which are inherited to the male. Furthermore, there is also a gene which exists in sex chromosome XY both.
Typical ones the platinum, the coral and old fashion, the cobra, are the aquamarine and the metal etc. with the gene, of Y type, but there is a large quantity to in addition to. In addition, these genes being to be times when it moves to the X-chromosome due to mutation Y type saying, are not decisive ones. Presently, calling X platinum and X cobra etc. limited, it is mainly utilized in production of the new kind.
Vis-a-vis this, it is not many excessively any which can be called X type. Lead tail and ブルーテール etc. are thought as this type, but when really breeding it tries doing, for example, when putting the female of the mosaic on the male of the lead tail, it seems that as for F 1 is many, the times when those which do the respective intermediate expression come out decision cannot say after all.
And, it is the type which exists in sex chromosome XY both as for typical ones typical ones are the tuxedo the German yellow tuxedo, as a phenotype such as glass and mosaic, but as a kind. The gene which excludes Y type, in other words, originally only the X-chromosome, or the gene of the type which exists XY both gives the color handle of the caudal fin and the influence which is strong in shape vis-a-vis Y type producing effect on the color handle of the body largely. The various kinds are made and by the combination of these genes. Releasing returns, but the kind which is called mosaic system this way, it is the case that it is made from the caudal fin by the mosaic gene which is on the body and the X-chromosome due to the heredity of Y type.
You speak like above on the basis of thing, concerning actual breeding. Or it was not many times in "releasing the mosaic" to here and repeated, but the basis is the same here. The kind of mosaic type is maintained, the female where the mosaic is good is necessary. Because is, we would like to raise the metal mosaic with the taste, also the person that, we would like to raise the old fashion mosaic, being parallel with that, recommends that breeding it does the mosaic. If it has the female of the good mosaic, breeding of other mosaic type succeeds by all means. Presently, over ten years the mosaic and the old fashion which are continued, mosaic type kind of several types such as platinum aquamarine and mosaic cobra is in my greenhouse. When the 仔 is taken in 2 - 3 generation same uteri, in order to replace with those which take the female from the mosaic, it can maintain these mosaic type kinds, easily by periodically exchanging the female. In addition, in case of me the male of the mosaic you apply the female of these mosaic type kinds and you do not do that it adjusts. Especially, there is no reason, but the mosaic has rebuilt with another method. With the following section the point of caution and the like of breeding is explained the classified by kind.

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2006, 02:39:02 am »
Application of mosaic (part 2)

Here, it keeps collecting the point of caution and the like regarding breeding concerning several kinds of mosaic type. Former contents there is also about it overlaps, but pardon you ask.
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 The mosaic of this photograph, the mosaic tuxedo is the sibling of the same uterus. The male parent the mosaic, the dam is the mosaic tuxedo. Seeing, as understood, the extent color handle which the tuxedo and in the non tuxedo was born from the same parent and with cannot think is different. Because the caudal fin of the mosaic tuxedo is tend to become dark color in comparison with the mosaic, when it continues to take long with the tuxedo as a parent, it is good for the whole caudal fin to become dark. The occasionally applying together, will try the male of the mosaic of bright color resetting flashiness.
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 Concerning the old fashion mosaic there is no especially problem. Choosing those whose quality of the female of the mosaic is good periodically, if you exchange, it can maintain easily the body miniaturizing without.
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 You think the old fashion blue mosaic that with blue mosaic system it is the kind which it is easiest to maintain. Old fashion and the mosaic affinity are good very, by comparison with other blue mosaic system, the fact that the clean handle is easy to enter to the caudal fin is feature. The female red system, please may use bluetype whichever refers "the methodof choosing the female of the mosaic ". However, like the individual of this photograph, because as for those where white enters strongly in the caudal fin, in many of the same uterus the yellow blotch enters in the caudal fin, when we would like to avoid that, it is necessary after all to choose the female.Please refer "the method of choosingthe female of the blue mosaic ". I think that this kind is optimum to the enrollment of blue mosaic system.
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 When you compare also the coral blue mosaic with the blue mosaic and the blue mosaic cobra etc. which explains afterwards, maintenance is some easy. But, like the individual of this photograph as for those where the mosaic handle enters into the caudal fin cleanly, so as for many it does not appear in one uterus. It probably is necessary to be after all experience to stack, to be accustomed to the female choosing. Furthermore, it is the kind of other blue type and it is to be able to say, but in case of the especially this kind, using the male of the blue, those of the red type which it takes, in other words as for the coral mosaic the color handle to be bad, because it becomes something which almost it does not withstand appreciation, as for red system the one which maintains with only red system is good, probably will be.
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 The platinum aquamarine mosaic, this kind there is no especially problematical point. The aquamarine in the same way as old fashion, the mosaic and affinity are good, the clean color handle rides. Occasionally, the female can maintain just is replaced. In the past the back fin becomes small, it was the kind where fault such that the torso is long is easy to come out, but presently that being considerably improved, it has become good proportion.


 The platinum aquamarine blue mosaic, as for this kind influence of the platinum?, there is a weak point that yellow is easy to enter to the caudal fin. If the well good female is applied, it can take also the individual where the relatively clean handle enters mainly, but this, with it is many, also the times when the female which is thought comes off in that case, the handle spreading, it flows. To avoid the fact that yellow enters into the caudal fin, it is method of choosing the female in the same way as other blue system, you can say, but that that degree of risk is a little high. As for degree of hardness of the thing which it maintains you think as the same rank as the coral blue mosaic.

 
 The mosaic cobra, this kind maintenance is easy. When the female of the good mosaic is applied, the extent which is close to 100%, similar it can take those where the handle enters cleanly. It is the generally known Kintarou candy. The fact that it becomes the kind of color tone where as for this kind with influence of the cobra, the caudal fin did not become red, like the photograph mixed yellow, brown and orange is feature. With combination of cobra and the mosaic such as metal Moscow and galaxy mosaic being in common, it is to be able to say. As a point of caution, when the part where the handle is black in the advanced part of the caudal fin is easy to protrude, as a result, is size raises there are times when those where the tip of the tail becomes the ざ く ざ く come out mainly. As for thisplease refer "the basisof the female choosing of the mosaic ".
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 The blue mosaic cobra, degree of difficulty of this kind is high very, the mosaic cobra of red type is the exact opposite. If the female of the blue mosaic is applied to the mosaic cobra, be inherited it becomes the blue mosaic cobra, but as for the caudal fin it becomes the handle which the sufficient in the almost, detailed spot enters light blue the mosaic cannot be said at all. Also the individual which and "the blue mosaic(the part 1) " withexplained this kind, had the red group in the hypogastrium comes out mainly. It surpasses to the blue mosaic also it is the kind which is not inferior as a degree of hardness. Excessive popular the kind you cannot say, but as for the value which tries challenging you think that it is.

Because you could not prepare the photograph, when the preparation is possible concerning the other kind, being to keep adding to this page on occasion in the pleasure.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2006, 02:54:58 am »
Maintenance of mosaic (part 1)

Here, maintenance of the mosaic, concretely you write concerning, actual breeding method such as necessity and the method of improving and rebuilding the color handle of the mosaic.
I presently as for the mosaic which breeding has been done, have started in the mosaic ribbon which with the shop which is over 10 years ago is purchased for 1 ten thousand Yen. Because price of the guppy of that time was raising even from now, 1 ten thousand Yen were the feeling that with the ribbon is cheap. Now, also system of the ribbon which I have of course is something of this time.
  10 years are long for the human they are the arm short ones. But, as for 10 years for the guppy whose alternation of generation is quick, when it replaces to the human, it has tried thinking it reaches the number of years of some extent, probably will be? After the guppy being born, becoming the adult, until you bear the 仔, it will make 5 months. On the one hand, when in case of the human, of age of former times is thought, it meaning that a little early one is good, when it makes 25 years, 1 month of guppy hits in 5 of human. With as for the notion that where you say as for 10 years of guppy when you refer to the human, it hits in 600, in Japan Muromachi era, from the time where Ashikaga justice full participated it is suitable to the present time. Because it is the case that it administers the workmanship where at this time the breeder is various, don't you think? it is the case that also the guppy changes. However, whether it changes to better one, or becomes bad, it is arm circumstance of the breeder.
Either my mosaic passed only 1 could take the male which is liked at the time of 2nd generation. But, while repeating generation, it reached the point where it can take very good ones mainly. And, the fact that it had become the big turning point was introduction of the mosaic tuxedo. The meager back fin which is the weak point was improved to that by inserting this blood, reached the point where it can win even in the contest. This way, the notion that where with one method, very there is an effect in order system to maintain the mosaic, you use the mosaic tuxedo periodically and adjust. You put the female of the mosaic tuxedo on the male of the mosaic and adjust. When the first female the tuxedo homo- is, F 1 it becomes all mosaic tuxedos, if, but the male of the mosaic is put on the female of F 1 and it adjusts, both the male female normal, the tuxedo it can take the 仔 half-and-half. In this way, when the 仔 is taken, the both kind can be enjoyed. In addition, the mosaic of completely another system one time, is introduced is the simplest method in several years. To that it means that such as thing feature changes and temporarily the color handle which are maintained, but if the breeder which is understood well you can reset your own fish to the origin directly. This way, being effective to adopt the blood of the same type kind from outside, it is the simplest maintenance method. In addition, back cross and the like, there is a method due to inbreeding, but being to be used generally even with the other fish and the flora and fauna not just the guppy, here you exclude this method. So, me how breeding you do your own mosaic, it explains concretely.
As for me as for feature of the caudal fin of your own mosaic you think that red compared to brighten there is a handle of color and the hyperchromic part which are close to orange. Especially because you do not happen to see any similar things excessively even with the contest meeting place and the photograph concerning color, as for any my things that it is understood directly. This color being something simply due to my taste, is another from the appraisal. As for method of choosing the female in order to make this color tonebeing you have written on the method of choosing the femaleof the 「 mosaic "please refer to. It judges with the fog beam female concerning the handle, but you look at the crowd of the male of the same uterus simultaneously carefully. That when you say, whether what is judged here it is condition of the handle of the hyperchromic part of the entire male. 1 2 is not, the impression of all males of the same uterus which stock is done it verifies whether to be small it has dispersed, whether it has been connected largely, whether edging which is white has entered and so on. The tail handle of the male is too small this time, or the hyperchromic part gathering, is visible darkly in the whole being, kind of when, if the female of that uterus there is no special reason, you do not use. Looking at all males here, it does well and when with judging, it chooses the female for the first time. After all important thing is that the handle has entered cleanly from on the tail to under. To continue to maintain the mosaic long, you think that this is the most important point.

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2006, 03:59:54 am »
Maintenance of the mosaic (the part 2) it rebuilds, (1)

Long time to maintain the guppy of the identical kind, there is the method whether many sort of. You expressed even with the front section, the blood of the system which the ‡@ periodically is different in the same kind is introduced, the ‡A descendant the branch is made to divide into several systems, occasionally those are made to cross, while repeating ‡B‡@ and ‡A, breeding it does, using the kind classified by ‡C, it rebuilds, and so on is. Maintenance method changes with, the condition such as the number the respective breeder having and raising purpose of tanks which it can utilize,, but when it becomes the rebuilding ‡C, 3 - 5 generations, period about of one year half is required to a generation of the guppy. In addition, as for the guppy which at that time is born excluding several it is used in the parent, is dealt with as the mixed breed limited to of one generation there is a destiny which. This way, you say that time and time is required for rebuilding, makes the unnecessary fish mainly big minus there is also a surface. But, there is bigger advantage in this.
As for one that you think whether it is not, to be able to make your own sufficient system. For example we assume that was purchased system of the famous breeder the guppy which with such as shop is written. If this is maintained that way, passing how long, someone the word, system of the 々 it turns concerning the head. Introducing the blood of another system from after, this time, when who and it just changes to the condition, someone's system, it becomes sometime, you do not know whether it reaches the point where you can call your own system. Such a time, resigning, rebuilding, if it is possible to make your own sufficient system, the pleasure of breeding becomes bigger ones, probably will be. With well, as for this you see and the glory we would like to see there is also a place, perhaps, the person who is not made the air is more, but really the surface how probably will be.
When thing and the generally known inbreeding where maintains the guppy with only the same system long time are continued, the deformity becomes many, somatotype miniaturizes, the harmful influence such that breeding coefficient becomes bad appears. Depending upon the kind there are also some which that much do not appear in remarkable, but the 仔 becomes unable to take with the worst case, completely, there are also times when system becomes extinct.
In case of the mosaic, various blood such as lead tail and glass and tuxedo is introduced into the past because, it is thought that of relatively, it is resistant to the harmful influence this hand, but as for continues being long with only the after all same system you think that the one which is avoided is better. In addition, you wrote first, but as for this kind it is possible to make the taste of the breeder the color handle reflect. Because of this, sometimes the handle of the caudal fin becomes too small, it becomes firm to the big handle conversely, it is many the times when deviation of the eye which such that it becomes the feeling which is dark darkly red was seen comes out. You can call rebuilding effective expedient even such a time.
Furthermore there is another advantage. That, using the other kind, when it does, is that 3 kinds rebuilding is possible simultaneously, 2 kinds, depending upon when. For example, when the lead tail tuxedo is used in rebuilding the mosaic, it probably is the place where the mosaic, it can rebuild the mosaic tuxedo and the lead tail tuxedo, can call a stone three bird?
As for next you write concerning the method of the rebuilding where I have done.

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2006, 04:01:40 am »
Maintenance of the mosaic (the part 3) it rebuilds, (2)

I have exhibited the fish of mosaic type to the contest mainly as a side and my own hobby which make the guppy because of mail order. With that kind of purpose to make a larger, in order beautiful guppy, the leading variety in 3 - 4 years has done rebuilding in ratio of one time. With mosaic system past two degrees, the neon tuxedo was used. It is not the lead tail tuxedo, those where it makes the neon tuxedo, inserting the blue mosaic tuxedo in range of vision, are thing, but this plan came off also two degrees. In addition, the fact that the tuxedo was used, to maintain the size of the back fin in order and, in case of me, when choosing the female, is because you think that the mosaic tuxedo is easier to judge. With this section, the rebuilding which used the male of the mosaic which presently is the under way at my greenhouse and the female of the German yellow tuxedo is introduced on the center.
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The aforementioned way, as for using the neon tuxedo there are two degrees, but the German yellow is unprecedented. In 2002 September mosaic male 2, breeding was started with the German yellow tuxedo female 2. The fact that the male of the mosaic was used is in order to leave the mosaic gene to the Y chromosome.
It could take F 1 in the following, October. The photograph to the right, is the individual of time of 5 months after the raw. Be inherited as for the maleXDYTYMo, as for the femaleit isXDYTXMo. About 2 and 5 months the fish does not change the German yellow 仔 with young almost, but as furthermore it grows, influence of the mosaic becomes strong in the caudal fin, very the handle does not enter, but it has redness rather. Next using the female of this male and the same uterus, takes the 仔. This time it does not take F 2, the stock mosaic, applies and adjusts the German yellow. This time, the female of the male of this uterus and the female of the mosaic, the male and this uterus of the mosaic, similarly, it it combined of 3 sorts, male of this uterus and the female of the German yellow.

It started the pairing in 2003 February and could take the respective 仔 in March. The individual of the photograph beginning of June presently, after is approximately 2 the raw and 5 months.


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‡A

‡B

‡C

The ‡@ you apply the male of F and 1 and the female of the mosaic being something which is adjusted, you do. Influence of the German yellow?, the foundation of the caudal fin to be white becomes wall thickness, becomes bright in the whole and as flashiness increases, thinks.
‡A you apply the male of the mosaic and the female of F 1 being something which is adjusted, you do. After all, the mosaic tuxedo of original system compared to color of the caudal fin became bright.
‡B is the female of the same uterus as ‡A. Still, the handle of the caudal fin is not clear, but you apply the mosaic and while adjusting, you think that it becomes good.
‡C you apply the male of F1 and the female of the German yellow being something which is adjusted, you do. The following generation is the pleasure.
Which individual the proper, degree of completion as a kind still is low, is, but to the following generation expectation is made to hold young is the fish which is sufficient.
First after sorting the parent, approximately 9 months it has already been required for coming to here. It takes the 仔 and, with these as a parent, in order to be able to judge the result, to become, furthermore nearly half year it is required, it means to require 1 year 3 month with this. It probably is the even mosquito net and quick extent as the time when it requires for rebuilding. Because also this period breeding has done simultaneously with former system, there are no times when the failure is feared. That compared to, when the kind of fish which has been pictured in mind is possible, as for the joy, you think as the thing which enjoyment of guppy breeding, makes the joy feel just.
There are various combinations in the kind which method of rebuilding and you apply and adjust. When does in only the stock kind, it is to raise that kind, because it is the case that it has been packed, if there is a mechanism of basic heredity and a knowledge for that kind, as for that much difficult thing you think that it is not. However, because also those which suffer hardship afterwards depending upon the combination of the kind which is used, it is, when first deciding the kind, please sort prudently. Especially e.g., first you apply normal and the tuxedo and adjust, when those where the movement of the gene is well recognized are used you think that it is good.

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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2006, 04:02:43 am »
New kind (new species) introduction 1

The mosaic of the photograph, about 2 years ago, being something which hybridizes the female of my mosaic to the male which takes over from contest breeder Hiwatari of the friend, from first ones hits to 4th generation. Because the female each time used another mosaic, there are no any which are taken in the same uterus.
It has been said Motochika of this guppy, in other words, in the fish which Hiwatari procures it is. At that time, several tails you found the fish which changes in the tank where the person looked at trouble with friend's house when you raise, the normal guppy you became the fish which is different clearly. It means that it had the feature where that was raised with the same tank, is similar to black Morley well. According to the person, as for that fish as for the caudal fin although once the delta tail is done, it means that the guppy compared to as a blockiness, it had roundness in the whole. In addition, as for the guppy of tuxedo type that even one were not those which do the coloration like the tuxedo had blended in several tails in spite, it is thing in that tank. With that, somehow the presumption could do this fish, whether it is not race mixture of the guppy and black Morley.Those which I take over in the individual which is thought as this, race mixture, are F1 of those which hybridize the female of Hiwatari's mosaic. At this point in time, that fish soon seems a certain way, it had the color tone of the kind of orange which covers the whole body and the feature of each fin. It hybridizes my female to the male of this time, has reached to the present.
In order be inherited from the male to be limited to the male, the female which is born from this parent is the normal mosaic. There is no photograph and it is to be the て regrettable and it does, but when designating this as the tuxedo, the bee ょ っ flying っ chestnut it did in the pectoral fin where black spot enters in coloration and the white ground of the silver of the upper body. Presently, hybridization with the female of the other kind is done. Chasing, it keeps us informing the result in this page.
Furthermore, this kind, still name has not been decided. With the orange mosaic, the kind of air which it passes a little inexpensively does. Because from Suzuki, from color tone of this guppy, the evening glow is associated, sun set mosaic as for that the plan which you say how, has come out.


 The color where the individual of this photograph is closest to the spot goods is done. Major feature sort of this photograph, is the kind of orange which has been worn in the whole body. There is an individual difference, but not only the body, there is coloration of the orange to each fin. There is a place where it is similar to the coloration of the coral somewhat, but in that case because it becomes something which already a little is close to red, it is different clearly.
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 It is the same uterus as the individual of the photograph above.

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 This is the normal mosaic. The body and color of each fin, please try comparing the shape of the back fin.

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 Coloration of the orange is an individual difference, the difference appears with angle and the illumination which are seen, but every one the originally mosaic has the feature which is different.

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 There is a feature even in shape of the back fin. Like the normal mosaic it does not become parallelogram, there is a height and has roundness. As for the mosaic which I have done breeding originally this guppy as the body and the caudal fin those which become the same orange comes out mainly vis-a-vis color of most back fins being white.

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 This abdominal fin, it is one of the feature where also ゴノボジƒ…ーム changes. This individual ゴノボジƒ…ーム is the same orange as the body. As for this part individual difference is extreme different from the caudal fin and the back fin, in addition, like black and white and this individual those where the handle enters it is. When it makes the long fin, it is thought that this feature furthermore is prominent.

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 It is the individual which is born from the female of the blue mosaic. The color handle is riding in also the pectoral fin in this individual.

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 Please looks at the pectoral fin, it is recognized that spot of black has entered into the area of the blue.
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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2006, 04:03:32 am »
New kind (new species) introduction (sun set mosaic part 2)

After the last time, introducing the sun set mosaic, already a little more than 4 months it elapses, it has been about that already the following generation probably becomes the parent. At present, rather than increasing the variation in vain, it continues, it endeavors in order to make the sun set mosaic establish as the kind. Also the guppy which this time is introduced until now similarly, in the male of the sun set mosaic, the mosaic and the mosaic ribbon, is F1 which hybridizes the female of the mosaic tuxedo. The expression which merit has each one very is done. There was many also the fact that it is not understood be inherited yet, this time especially, in the male, those which express the normal mosaic to be many as for the appearance and this, the gene which expresses the orange which is on the Y chromosome, moved on the X-chromosome with rearrangement, or, it seems that extremely happens rarely, but it suggests that mutation such that dislocation it does occurs on the autosome. In the future expectation has even in the breeding which used the female of this uterus may, is.
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 Young the fish of the sun set mosaic, the body and, already the merit such as color handle and shape of each fin has appeared.

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 The sun set mosaic ribbon, it is the individual 4 month and half.

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 The color handle is riding in also the back fin cleanly.

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 It is recognized that the color handle is riding to the pectoral fin.

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 It probably is the long reach. When the pectoral fin is expanded all the way, there is also about a length of the body. When shutting, the point reaches in the joint of the tail. You have not looked at the guppy which had the so long pectoral fin until now.

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 Pause of hatchet

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 It is the sun set mosaic tuxedo. The photograph was missed in generation of the parent, but this time it can introduce. There is a strong gloss, but after all orange here and there has appeared.

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 After all, there is a color handle even in the pectoral fin.

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 The face is lovely, because you say, that Suzuki is to come seems like the く ま, nickname "is to come the く ま".

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 Feature orange is recognized well.
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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2006, 04:54:40 am »
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Re: Mosaic story
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2006, 06:15:19 am »
New kind (new species) introduction (sun set mosaic part 3)

Also introduction of this new kind this time becomes 3rd in time, but whenever the time is repeated, it has become the pleasure to be able to introduce the merit where, even the peculiarity which this kind has you say, or is not seen in the present guppy and changes. This time the fish after the 2 of the sun set mosaic and previous simple explanation were inserted, the fact that among other things from the Y chromosome of the sun set gene movement to the X-chromosome has become clear is explained on the center.
Well, in the previous text, (in the male, those which express the normal mosaic to be many as for the appearance and this, the gene which expresses the orange which is on the Y chromosome, moved on the X-chromosome with rearrangement, or, it seems that extremely happens rarely, but dislocation it suggests that mutation such that it does occurs on the autosome.) With you wrote, but this time the sun set gene united on the X-chromosome of female after that with the breeding result, and it was verified that it changes. Lapse is as follows.

1, inside DELTA SPACE when the female of the normal mosaic is hybridized to the male of the sun set mosaic as usual breeding, the mosaic which does not become the orange which suddenly does not appear in the 仔, to that blended also above the half. Because beginning the breeding of this kind of &thorn;&thorn;&thorn; after there was no this kind of example approximately 2 years to that time, this gene thought as the thing which it is stable on the Y chromosome. Furthermore, this from not only 1 female, as the same result it appeared even in the 仔 of the group of females which have been bred simultaneously.

2, in the female of this uterus, those which have the merit which is not in the female of the normal mosaic which breeding has been done appeared with DELTA SPACE. The back fin of the female of the red type mosaic which &thorn;&thorn;&thorn; long time I have maintained the ink enters is more or less with light brown. However, in the female of this uterus there was coloration of the same blue as the caudal fin and the green in the back fin, those where spot has entered cleanly blended mainly. Furthermore among those barely is, but the abdominal fin, to the rear end fin it was seen to those which have coloration. It has already introduced as a merit of this kind, but as for the male of the sun set mosaic other than the caudal fin and the back fin, the pectoral fin and the abdominal fin, furthermore those where the color handle rides to ゴノポジウム where the rear end fin changes are. It can expect the existence of X sun set easily even from this.

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3, this female (the ribbon) when the male of the normal mosaic is hybridized, approximately the male of the sun set mosaic appeared half.

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It is the breeding report to which or more presently is the under way. Because X sun set is verified, it became possible to utilize this in the various kinds of mosaic type. For the present, as for this gene because it exists on the same chromosome as the mosaic gene, consideration is necessary in hybridization with the glass and the other kinds, but sooner or later it is thought that also it becomes possible to utilize independently.

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 Also the handle of the caudal fin was decided. The body of the male growth to be fast the caudal fin, the back fin is the feeling that is attached from after.

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The male underneath the female especially coloration is strong, from around the gill cover has shone in orange.

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 This individual merit of the sun set mosaic having appeared well, the color handle securely is the fish where the degree of completion which has been decided is high.

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 It is the individual which is taken from the female of the blue mosaic. There is no coloration of red in the individual of blue body color, or barely it appears is in the shoulder and the lower half body, but as for the fish which had the sun set gene there is an individual difference, but it is normal to become this way.

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 Attention, it has the same color handle as the caudal fin in the pectoral fin.

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 It is the 仔 which is born from the same stomach, but feeling the color handle is different from the individual above clearly. Also shape and size of the back fin are one of feature of this kind.
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